as a way to boost the power of the Model 94 lever-action rifle. By coincidence, in that same year, Norma Projektilfabrik of Sweden introduced its own heavyweight champion, the .358 Norma Magnum. He, too, could have been one of the greats. The .35 Whelen fires a larger .358 bullet and is therefore right at the cusp of being a big game caliber and is capable of handling everything except . Included in that have been a whole bunch of deer, hogs and a bear or two. from the 24" barrel of a Marlin 336XLR rifle. Most ammunition makers have a 200-grain load, and Remington also has a 150-grain load with a muzzle velocity of 2300 f.p.s. Maybe it's a regular BDL? Among my own favorites for the .358 Norma are the Nosler Partitions in both 225 and 250 grains, Swift A-Frames (225, 250, 280) and various Woodleighs, including the unique 310-grain Weldcore. This year, H&R announced an expansion of its AR-15 lineup, bringing additional "retro" models to the market, including a 9 mm Luger-chambered Colt SMG clone, an M16A2-styled rifle and the carbine-size 723. Make no mistake, the .30-06 is a powerful cartridge, but it doesnt beat you to death and can be built in the seven- to eight-pound range. Trust me, you could do worse, but youll be hard-pressed to do better! and is a good cartridge for hunting the thick woods for deer, hogs, black bear or even elk. Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Shaw rifle's 24-inch barrel.. Out of stock View Details . [/quote]. The Newton was supposedly loaded, by Western Cartridge, to 2,975 fps with a 250-grain bullet, but I, for one, would want to see the chronograph reading. Mag. The company made its humble start in 1963in Gussago, Italywhen Giuseppe Pietta made a commitment to produce guns as authentic and true-to-original as possible. Mag.-all with a bigger, heavier bullet that will punch a bigger hole and penetrate deeper. Since then, I have often recommended medium bores, such as Elmer Keiths favorite .33s, and Ive used the 8mm Remington Magnum a lot. 35 Whelen. Contributor Brad Fenson takes to the grill, to cook up some delicious venison burgers. In addition, for stopping the big predators of the world, it's hard to beat a suitable .35 caliber rifle. offered the performance level of the .358 Win. 2023 Outdoor Sportsman Group. Original Schultz & Larsens had substantial freebore to keep pressures down, and Normas specifications for the cartridge called for it. Released in 1959though there were no factory chambered rifles or factory loaded ammunition available for the new cartridgeNorma offered chamber reamers and new component brass for its new brainchild. I rely on Roberson Cartridge Company out of Texas for projects like these, and their .350 Rigby brass is wonderfully uniform and properly headstamped. There are several reasons. And the hunter must have full confidence in his or her choice. lbs. Ruger briefly chambered the M77 rifle in .35 Whelen. ), but with considerably less recoil. .470 Nitro Express. It will kill farther than that, of course, but that is its optimum range. Actual weight depends on subspecies, nutrition, and age, but 600 pounds is a good starting point for grownup bulls and twice the size of an unusually large deer. Had the .358 Norma Magnum been chambered in an American rifle, or at least promoted by an American company, the popularity of the cartridge may have been much greater than it is. For the next year, comparisons were inevitable between Johanssons Hammer of Thor and the .358s powerful 250-grain bullet. I am not into the current long-range fad, especially on powerful animals like elk. Real world, the Norma bitchslaps brown bears and moose as convincingly as the 375H&H. Im voting no. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Bertram Brass from Australia is a good source when you can get it, and Quality Cartridge makes a run of .350 Rigby every few years, but you could be waiting a considerable amount of time. The nearest of any to the .358 Norma was the .35 Newton, which it closely resembles. Today the .35 caliber family, at least in North America, includes the .357 Magnum, .35 Remington, .356 Winchester, .358 Winchester, .35 Whelen, .350 Remington Magnum and .358 Norma Magnum. The rivalry between the .338-inch and .358-inch bore diameters has a considerable history; both topped out at 300 grains (at one point in time in history), and both have a lower end of 180 grains. Heres a detailed look at each step of the process. Also, many of these hunters have the luxury of a long season close to home. All we do know for sure is that it was either Howe or Whelen, or both, who necked the .30-06 Sprg. But in 2003 Remington decided to attempt a resurrection. Still have a 9.3 (so I guess it "won"). Its a flat shootermimicking the trajectory of a .30-06 with heavier bulletsand is fully capable as an all-around choice. It was verry expensive to shoot, lots of powder and expensive bullets and brass. One can almost hear the echoes of Norma Mag. That version is in some dispute, with evidence that Whelen himself developed the cartridge or at least worked with Howe on its development. As many hunters know, the Remington Model 600 carbine, which was introduced in 1964, was one of the first short, light, bolt-action rifles to find success with deer hunters. In rifle cartridges, we usually take the safe route and .30-caliber has emerged as the American shooters choice. Its still a fine choice, but I dont have a .338 right now. The body of the .350 Magnum measures 0.517 inches at the base, smaller than the 0.589-inch base of the .416 Rigby. We owe a debt of gratitude to the engineers at the British firm of Holland & Holland; though it is lost to history who exactly designed the belted magnum cartridge, the .275 and .375 Holland & Holland Magnums were game changers. I own several rifles in this cartridge and all my .35 Whelen rifles are accurate. X-Vision Optics long-range ImpactThermal Scope (TS300) boasts a 640 x 480 thermal sensor that can detect big game well past 3,000 yards. The Norma factory load, with Normas own 250-grain bullet, performed poorly, coming apart in the chest cavity. Most Professional Hunters agree that a bullet with a S.D. The major problem with light loads is getting enough pressure to provide a good gas seal. The 35 whelen and 358 winchester were the two I was torn between. from my E.R. Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. and the .32 Win. The softpoints were used for the various antelope species, dangerous cats and even buffalo, while the full-patch, non-expanding solids would be used on elephant. Shaw rifles 24-inch barrel. Does the power of the magnum offer much over the whelen in real life terms? So are the .350 Remington Magnum and .358 Norma Magnum. Thats the primary game for many of us, but one size doesnt fit all. Mark Bansner is making one for me: synthetic stock on a left-hand Sako action. Sometimes you get a point-blank shot; other times you need to stretch it a bit farther. Cartridges that in many cases cannot match the killing power, at normal hunting ranges, of comparable .35's. And, as any fan of the .35-caliber cartridges knows, there are quite a few bullet weights to choose from within the caliber. Petersen's HUNTING Publisher, Kevin Steele is in the CZ booth with Dylan Rice at SHOT Show to talk about CZ 600 Series Trail rifle. The Swedish firm of A.B. Movement is more random in big country. The better ones create mild gallery or small-game loads that are economical, quiet, virtually without recoil and best of all a lot of fun to shoot. Shorter and more common than the magnum-length receiver needed for the .375 and .300 Holland & Holland Magnum, the Winchester Model 70s and Remington Model 721s gave a new level of performance when chambered for the new magnums. The 25-degree, 30-minute shoulder gives plenty of room for powder, and though the neck of the .358 Norma measures less than the desired one-caliberit comes in at 0.328-inchthere is plenty of neck tension to hold the bullets in place without the need for crimping. In its 112-year lineage, it has probably taken more elk than all other cartridges combined. In the entry on the .358 Norma, it maintains that, had Norma convinced a major American riflemaker to offer the chambering in the early years, it could have become one of the greats. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction; that is one of the physical laws of our universe. But the .416 is certainly not the only cartridge to bear the Rigby surname; read the works of Walter Dalrymple Maitland Karamoja Bell, or Col. Jim Corbett and the .275 Rigbybetter known as the 7x57mm Mauserwill get all sorts of praise. This is in sharp contrast to the overwhelming success of the .357/9mm handgun cartridges, whose popularity dates right to the beginning of the self-contained cartridge era. Mag., and I think thats the only current production rifle in that cartridge. Now, I have to go out on a limb and say that sensible elk cartridges aren't all about power. Synthetic wins over laminate because laminates, strongest of all, are also heaviest. By Layne Simpson. Can this be made into a .358 Norma Mag or must I do a .35 Whelen. Have a .350 Rem Mag, building a .358 Win currently, would prefer to do the .358 Norma if possible but not sure if this action can handle it.Anyone? At 300 yds., the .358 Norma impacts only 0.96" lower than the .300 Win. in its NoslerCustom line with a 225-grain Partition bullet at 2550 f.p.s. Maybe I'll just get a 375 H+H instead of going the Norma route. Pet Loads and Handloader are registered trademarks of Wolfe Publishing Company. Alas, to the best of my knowledge, its not imported to the U.S. Being able to take off the scope and work with iron sights, using cast bullets or light jacketed bullets, adds an entirely new dimension to the rifle. The .350 Magnum has a case length of 2.742 inches, and an overall cartridge length 3.44 inches, so it will feel at home in a magnum-length receiver. There is only .007-inch (seven thousandths) difference between the .270s .277-inch bullet and the 7mms .284-inch bullet. The .358 Norma established its reputation in high-end hunting rifles like this Schultz & Larsen Model 65DL. I am often criticized for following the Elmer Keith school in suggesting powerful cartridges. The numerous magnum .30s are also excellent, but they deliver more recoil. However, the majority of American deer hunters dont live in elk country, but many dream of going elk hunting. You know the kind with the locking bolt. I have used the .35 Whelen on critters from bobcats to moose. That year, Remington also brought out the Model 673 Guide Gun in .350 Rem Mag. Mag. Meanwhile, the .358 Norma fizzled, for lack of a better term, because rifles were not readily available, ammunition was expensive and hard to get, and it found itself in direct competition with one of the great American cartridges of the twentieth century, Winchesters .338 Magnum. Thought about that 375 Ruger but nah. Can't really imagine one cartridge doing anything the other couldn't, though the availability of bigger bullets and way more factory ammo (if wanted) are definite pluses for the Mauser. With its spitzer-pointed bullets, the .358 is a good medium- to long-range cartridge with capabilities out to 250 yards on big game. Where the .338 Winchester drives its 250-grain bullet to 2650 fps, the .358 Norma beats that figure by 100 fps or so, delivering over 4,200 ft.-lbs. Likewise, so do experienced western elk hunters. Subscriber Services. As a result of all this activity, .358-inch diameter jacketed rifle bullets are available in a wide range of weights and styles, from 150-grain semipointed to 200- grain roundnose, all the way up to 310 grains for the heaviest game. Either of the other two cartridges mentioned will work just fine also. compare 338/06 vs 338 win, and 35 whelen vs 358 norma vs 358 alaskan (stw) loaded to same pressure. You can never lead if you always follow; the other cartridges were designed to chase Winchesters success, while the .35 Rem. I've owned several Magnum Mediums338 RUM, 340WBY, 375 H&H, 375 WBY, 358NM, 338WM. 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Faster 6.5sthe new 6.5 PRC, the old .264, or the super-fast .26 Nosler and 6.5-300 Weatherbywill deliver more energy and open the range envelope a bit. The .358 Win. At 400 yds., the .358 Norma impacts 3.1 inches lower than the .300 Win. The .35 Rem. Food for thought, is it not? To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. It is a good choice for shooters who are very sensitive to recoil, since its free recoil energy is only about 4.5 ft. lbs. As it was released in the first century of the 20th century, when the common boundaries of cartridge usage were being defined, the .350 Rigby Magnum was considered an all-around cartridge, especially in the more open terrain of British and German East Africa, known today as Kenya and Tanzania. However, should a hunter who enjoys using cartridges that arent among the most popular find a rifle chambered for the .358 Norma Magnum? I bought it as a moose rifle but never got drawn in ten years. Introducing the Veracity PH from Burris, the perfect combination of reliability, quality, and technology delivering a simple aiming solutiona tool for the hunter that just works. That does not mean that any gunsmith who had his own ideas about velocity and accuracy might not include it or go completely the other way. in a rimmed cartridge that would work in a lever-action rifle. Mag. The fortunate few who own them want to keep them, and these are the core admirers who make it worth Normas while to continue offering brass and loaded ammunition. I have become a 35 cal. Choose at least medium weight for caliber: 140 grains in 6.5mm and the lighter 7mms; 140 and 150 grains in .270s; 150 to 160 grains in faster 7mms; 165 or 180 grains in .30 calibers. .50 Beowulf. Elk bullets must be tough enough to provide adequate penetration. The bullet went in behind the near shoulder, struck the far shoulder from the inside, and the blue bull hit the ground with a thud. Also, after a few dozen elk hunts, Ive seen many taken effectively with lighter cartridges. Theres more to success than merely landing a good one on the chin. Today, rifles can be made very light, but that can also be overdone because light rifles are whippy and hard to control when youre out of breath and have to settle in for a quick shot. Hornadys LEVERevolution pushes the performance up a notch with a 200-grain pointed bullet at 2225 f.p.s. Shortening the 2.85-inches long .375 H&H case wasnt exactly a revolutionary ideathat little-known .275 H&H so closely resembles the design of the half-century younger 7mm Remington Magnum that its uncannybut with the Winchester marketing machine the concept was brought to the forefront. Perhaps thats why it has survived. was introduced in 1955. What keeps it alive? No matter if its books, art or hunting cartridges, its only those with a deep understanding of the subject who can fully understand the greatness often buried in obscurity. To reach the .300 mark, youd need a 270-grain bullet (the North Fork and Woodleigh bullets come immediately to mind), but stabilization becomes an issue in the slower twists, and thats long been a problem in .35-caliber barrels. I'm sending my 270 tikka off to JES rebore to get it punched out to 35 whelen. This new model featured two new cartridges, the .350 Rem. Barnes has a Vor-TX load with a 180-grain TSX bullet and a muzzle velocity of 2900 f.p.s. Yet, that bore diameter produces some of the best hunting cartridges available. Three rivals: (1) .338 Winchester Magnum, (2) .358 Norma Magnum and (3) .375 H&H. The hunter from afar, journeying into unfamiliar country, must also accept the pressure of a limited period of time and the knowledge that it may come down to just one chance. Folks who live in elk country may consciously seek a cow for the freezer. the problem in this debate is we are crossing over in calibres, which means thrust on different sized pistons. Now, I have to go out on a limb and say that sensible elk cartridges arent all about power. Shaw will make a rifle, as will any other custom, or semi-custom, riflemaker. 9.3x62 boots 320gr Woodleigh protected points and weldcore round noses out at 2400 fps with RL-17. Then come the .30s, and now were talking business. can drive the same weight bullet a bit faster. The .25 Rem., .30 Rem. Throw a belt on the .35 Newton and you couldnt tell the difference three feet away. Its often thought that if they had it would have gained popularity over the .338 Win. The .35-caliber cartridges usually top out at 250 grains, though if a 300-grain bullet at a slightly faster twist rate were employed, it would certainly be in the same class as the .375 Holland & Holland. But in those countries where the lighter cartridges are legal for the cats, the .350 Rigby Magnum is just about perfect. Size aside, American elk are very tough creatures. Blocker Outdoors Finisher gloves, headcovers and other accessories are available in Mossy Oak Bottomland and Mossy Oak Obsession NWTF camouflage patterns to match various turkey hunting terrain. It arrived with three other cartridges designed to compete with Winchesters popular lever-action lineup. and .358 Norma Mag.). has been offered in just about every rifle action type ever conceived and a few handguns. This is basically a deer and black bear (CXP2 class game) cartridge, although it is reputed to be superior to cartridges in the .30-30 class for game weighing over about 400 pounds. In the shooting sports we call that reaction recoil or "kick." Essentially the .338 Winchester Magnum necked up to hold .358-inch bullets, the .358 Norma Magnum made all sorts of sense to a hunter in pursuit of large game, such as elk, moose and the great bears of the north. For a while Savage chambered it in the Model 99, and I am still looking for one I can afford. On those gray, moody November days when I am feeling blue I take my Remington Model 141 pump-action rifle in .35 Rem. Avoid quick-opening bullets, especially match bullets; instead, choose controlled-expansion designs intended for hunting larger game. It is very accurate, easy to carry and fast on the target. The .358 Norma Magnum, like the .358 Shooting Times Alaskan, generates a considerable amount of energy, but due to the caliber restrictions for dangerous game of most of the African countries, it falls shy of the markthe .375-inch bore is minimum for many countries. In 1965 Remington took it to the next level with the introduction of the Model 600 Magnum Carbine. Oklahoma. I was used to the 30-06 parent cases (.270, 25-06, etc) so that is what I decided on. The .35 Win., .35 Newton and .350 Griffin & Howe Mag. 358 norma mag is a rarer bird but as I understand fire forming 300 win mag brass an easy way to feed it. For more specialized uses, Speer makes a 180-grain flatpoint (semispitzer)that, with reduced loads, turns the .358 Norma Magnum into a pussycat for recoil but is easily capable of handling game such as black bears and white-tailed deer out to 250 yards or so. In fact, the recoil of the .358 Norma Magnum, at about 35 ft. lbs. and .32 Rem. Right now, I think that the Browning BLR lever-action rifle is the only production gun left on the market in .358 Win. Since lack of a gas seal in a low-pressure load is more of a nuisance than a danger, it can be ignored if you dont mind the soot. While most of the .35 caliber rifle cartridges are powerful medium bore numbers designed for use on large (CXP3) game like elk and moose, the most popular .35 caliber rifle cartridge is the .35 Remington. However, that may be changing, or at least the possibility of change may exist. But there is another Rigby cartridge, vastly overlooked even among rifle cranks, but which was at one time as popular as the .375 H&H Magnum: the .350 Rigby Magnum. As Ive said, I like mediums, such as the unpopular 8mm Remington Magnum and the faster .33s. Sure, we experiment a bit with other bore sizes, but in the end it always comes back to the .30 caliber. The .358 Win. I see no reason to shy away from it. Fusion Ammo has a 200-grain with a muzzle velocity of 2800 f.p.s. Thier wouldn't be any action mods required to do the Whelen,just rebarrel and enjoy. However, the optimum game range of the .358 (250 grain bullet at a MV of 2300 fps) is 240 yards. With a 200-grain bullet the .35 Whelen actually shoots a bit flatter than the .30-06 Sprg. it is one nice gun and made for tight places. There is certainly no lack of .358-inch diameter bullets to choose from but brass is limited. It can work in close or at a distance or dazzle you with footwork. Also as I have a lot of 357 pistol bullets I was figuring on being able to use them as reduced loads/smaller game options in either big 35 cal should I go that route. The 250-grain .358-inch bulletwith a sectional density of 0.279if properly constructed, has enough length to handle the brown bear and bison, and all of the African plains game species, plus lion and leopard. Too bad Ingemar Johansson was not so well equipped. It can be the ballistic equivalent of the .30-06 with a 180-grain bullet or, pushed the other way, it can easily match the velocity of the .300 Weatherby Magnum with the same weight bullet. Most were intended for .38-caliber handguns, but any bullet made for either the .38 Special or .357 Magnum can be loaded and shot in the .358 Norma Magnum with varying degrees of success. was initially chambered in Remingtons Model 8 autoloader, soon followed by the Model 14 pump-action. figure of 0.300 is desirable, and comparing similar cartridges, youll see the .350 Rigby comes in a bit behind the other popular choices of the day. My .375 H&H seemed quite adequate. All Rights Reserved. It will work in this action with ease and will be plenty cheap to feed and use if one simply sizes up 338 brass and goes along thier happy way. Mag. in an 8.5 pound rifle, is comparable to the much more popular but less effective (on CXP3 class game) .300 Weatherby or .300 Remington Ultra Magnums. It never got up. That being said, with much wider availability, and the higher . The case capacity of the .350 Rigby is very similar to that of the .358 Norma Magnum, and the performance is likewise similar. Is the .358 Norma Magnum a cartridge destined to make a huge comeback? This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. bruce. So if you have a .375 (or larger) and a yen to take it elk hunting, be my guest. This wonderful efficiency of the .35 calibers is especially remarkable when one considers that most all of these rounds are verging on obsolescence today. Bertram Brass from Australia is a good source when you can get it, and Quality Cartridge makes a run of .350 Rigby every few years, but you could be waiting a considerable amount of time. Particularly when you consider that every one of those newer short magnum cartridges burns more powder to achieve less killing power than the .350 Rem. 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Lyman lists 47 different moulds that were available at one time or another, ranging in bullet weight from 70 to 282 grains. Opening up a boltface on a standard action is NOT a difficult job for a decent gunsmith and does not affect the strength or viability of the action one WHIT. A medium variable in the 3-9X or 2.5-10X range should be enough scope for elk hunting. Frankly, I would not want to be without them. Of course, not all .35-caliber cartridges approach greatness. Kali Parmley of Gun Dog Magazine talks to George Thompson from Benelli USA about the new features from the Benelli line in 2023. This is because it was discontinued in the mid-1970s, and reintroduced by Remington in 2003. were to go head to head with the .25-35 Win., .30-30 Win. Every time I use it I ask myself, Whats not to like? Beats me, but nobody liked it enough to keep it in production. As a "stopper" for use on dangerous game the .358 Norma is clearly superior to the .300 Magnums. Mag. So while some of my rifle choices may have been oddball, none of the rifles Ive used for elk have been exactly wrong. The .358 Norma established its reputation in high-end hunting rifles like this Schultz & Larsen Model 65DL. The .35 Rem. With such a variety of bullets, you would think the skys the limit in terms of different loads, but there are other factors to consider. The only rifles I can find in production are from Nosler, Remington and CVA. There was a time when I questioned the adequacy of the .270 for elk. And Barnes makes a 200-grain TSX bullet designed for this cartridge that, when handloaded to 2850 f.p.s., allows the .350 Rem. The .358 Norma Magnum is a rifle cartridge introduced in 1959 by Norma. Nosler has three loads in its Custom line. Our editors have hand-picked these essential pieces of gear to make you a more successful hunter when you hit the game trails this season. Is there a way to find out what year it is by serial #?