Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Would love a new one, in particular one of the Henry brand as the finishes are absolutely beautiful. This permits me to throat the MAGnum barrel with a proper minimum diameter cylindrical throat that: Given a long minimum diameter throat, a MAGnum gives better accuracy with standard MAG ammo for those wanting to shoot .357 MAGnum and .38 Special loads while also being able to essentially duplicating .350 Legend factory loadings. Not everything has to be tactically sound. Designed to use popular handgun calibers, it allowed shooters to carry a single caliber of ammo. Couldnt seem to understand that I couldnt and didnt care to at this moment. Comments like yours on why dont you just reload are what limits some of my shooting time on the metallic silhouette range as its full of old vietnam era (and older) shooters that whine more than a Karen in the wild if you dont pick up your brass with intent to reload. I am sure I am not the only one that is open to it but finds that it is not possible right now. The 1873 was one of the most popular lever action rifles of all time. Being a straight walled cartridge, its a snap. Buy Savage 24V Series D 357 Rem Max / 20GA: GunBroker is the largest seller of Other Rifles Rifles Guns & Firearms All: 973628258. . Too bad Winchester lever guns arent still made in the USA. SAAMI maximum is 48,000, and in the closed breech guns pressures can be run at the same levels as 5.56 NATO, about 54,000 psi. 317 1 Image (s) Ruger Blackhawk .357 Maximum, 1983, 10.5-inch, great bore, 95%, layaway Gun #: 945177475 Seller: Sportsmans Legacy GA Sales: 739 $1,750.00 Full Details 1 Image (s) ROSSI R-92 LEVER RIFLE .357 MAGNUM Gun #: 942851574 Seller: Alpha Omega Services LLC $948.60 This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. Henry Big Boy All-Weather Rifle 10 RD 357 Magnum 38 Spl 10 . : .357" (except where otherwise specified in remarks). Many shooters used their long-barreled .357 Magnum revolvers but usually longed for a bit more velocity to go with those heavy bullets. Or, take advantage of facory .350 Legend ammo. Thats what the saddle ring designs were for. I just checked Davidsons, my primary national wholesaler. 350 Ledgend vs 357 Rem Max | Bloodydecks Latest posts Offshore They're here!!! I dont live in big bear country. The furniture is high grade walnut, and the Deluxe Sporting model also features a 24-inch half octagon barrel and half rounded. It really boils down to max distance, drop, and how much the bullets . From reloading to bullet selection, reloading powder choice and factory ammunit. Then ordered a new 1894 with Ballard rifling, checkering, and sling studs for 350. Also, at higher velocities, the bullet is able to realize a flatter trajectory meaning longer shots are possible. Cloudbuster by groschen1936 Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:30 am, Post Because of this, many hunters are realizing the potential of the cartridge for hunting medium to large game. The long narrow case is not well suited to propellants much faster than the 2400-class propellants. Its a nice round and rifle. I bought a used Marlin 94c 357 in June, 2020 for $600, in 98% condition. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gun-review-rossi-model-92-lever-action-45-colt/, Also not a .357, but a stunning Henry: Not even a Rossi(saw a trick shot dude on a video whos main gun was a Rossi). H&R and Savage both chambered the .357 Maximum in single-shot rifles or combo guns. Joseph Von Benedikt is with Rafe Nielsen of Browning to take a look at a new X-Bolt series rifle. Upon opening the box the gun was dirty and needed to be cleaned/oiled, not sure if the dust was from the shipping cardboard or lack of care in the shop before packing. Being forced to use the Winchester Trapper, the horror. I have a MGM barrel 24" ProHunter Contour 1:14 twist which allows me to shoot 180 grain bullets and above extremely well. Cartridge is a mite better now than 3 years ago, IMO. Show Only Guns 30-30 is always a good option. We used Small Rifle primers for all load data, and they did fine with the propellants we tested. New cartridge and rifle. The 40-70 Sharps straight can be formed from 405 Winchester cases. Primos Jelly Head Choke Tube Maximum Supertight Remington 20 Ga. Primos Jelly Head Choke Tube Maximum Supertight Remington 12 Ga. Primos Jelly Head Choke Tube Maximum Benelli-beretta 12 Ga. Uberti 1873 Cattleman NM Steel 7 1/2" .357 Mag with Retractable firing pin (356550), Taylor's & Co 1892 Alaskan Black Takedown 16" Lever Action 357 Mag - NIB, 200 Round Case Underwood Ammunition .38 Special 100gr. 1,535 max: Lil'Gun: 17.0 gr. Shop online for discount .357 Remington Max ammunition from top ammo brands like Remington, Federal, Winchester, Hornady, CCI, Speer, and many more. Most 158-grain and lighter bullets usually lack the jacket thickness for use on big game in a Contender. We discuss most anything here politely. I have one, and they are very nice, but spendy, and very hard to come by. This caliber in both the bottle neck and straight wall was a popular "high velocity" for it's day buffalo caliber. And one 1886 Winchester 45-70 takedown model, ( rare). Buy 357 Maximum Brass Pistol Cases 95pcs Mixed Brass 357 Max: GunBroker is the largest seller of Reloading Supplies Ammunition Reloading All: 974082394. . As the sport grew, the single shots came into their own as did fancy, short bolt guns, but a quarter of the program was always with a stock revolver. Apples should be in pie. This cartridge began the " Magnum era" of handgun ammunition. Description. Since that time, many believe that the issues stem from using light-loads consisting of 110 and 125 grain (gr.) It's failure as a commercial load does not reflect poorly on it's performance, as it has become increasingly popular for handgun hunters and silhouette shooters alike. It is the perfect .357 Max rifle bullet. This fire also flowed upwards in such a way that it encountered the inside edge of the revolver topstrap. Yes, they can, of course, be fired farther, but the design, mass and speed of the bullets are what really determine effective range. Do the same during Deer Season, and all the critters have suddenly developed a deep phobia of open meadows you can see from far off. those .357s out of a 20 inch barrel will just bounce off the bad guys chest, I tell ya!!!!!!! Trust me. Which was ".357 maximum Auto Rimless." The moniker ".357 Max AR" stuck with the round for 3 reasons, 1) it was a 5.56 case expanded to straightwall, maximizing its capacity, 2) it uses load data very similar to the 357 Maximum rimmed revolver cartridge, and 3) the "Max-AR," Auto Rimless, was really only meant for use in AR-15's . Backorder OK. Slip Top 50 Smoke Ammo Box 38 /357 Mag /357 Max /38 ACP /38 Super. The Story of my life it seems. The .357 Maximum can be a potentially great cast bullet cartridge. Factory throats are more like a forcing cone, done to keep pressures down, does zero for accuracy. But I also have lever rifles in pistol calibers of 357 and 45 colt. Mounted basic fixed sights on it. Thats a LOL. Maybe Ill be in a position to reload once I retire in 25 or so years but by then Ill probably have sold everything and moved back overseas so it wont be an issue. Finally needed cash and sold it to a collector of old west guns. For full power loads like 30 gr. MGM's chamber is perfect for the vast majority of hunters and target shooters! Not quite as fast but a staple item is 296/110 with 23 gr. It was almost daylight and I kept hearing something move around. The Casull is way shorter than the Max and ~the same OAL as the 360 DW. Never again Marlin, shouldve bought another Henry. Rossi makes various models starting at about $500. No one else offers the wide range of options, steel picatinny rails, and barrel fluting that MGM does. XTP bullet in a 357 mag. And some states (North Carolina) consider that a concealed weapon. The most common include: There are other firearms chambered in the maximum, but their availability is limited and prices can be high. almost 1782 psi less than 9mm 4" barrel pressure. Lever actions are a hoot to shoot. If I didnt have to deal with CAs onerous gun registration laws, Id otherwise be glad to offer someone one of my Glock/AR sets for a .357 Mag revolver + rifle. The .450 is like a 45-70 magnum. Here are links for the articles Ive posted over the years; enjoy! For sale I have a Harrington & Richardson (H&R) model 158 rifle in .357 Maximum. The topstrap cutting kept on but eventually stopped. H110. I make do with a 336 Marlin in .35 Rem. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Features a rugged, stainless steel bolt with 90 bolt throw and rapid lock time for added accuracy. At least it can use use the same bullets as my Smiths. You want a 357 Max rifle, best to go to MGM with Encore barrel, with Bellm's chambering. by Griff Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:22 pm, Post I bought a new carrier and internal parts and fitted them to feed a loaded 357 Maximum. There is a lot of muzzle flash with the Maximum. Per ballistics charts, and generally speaking due to all the variables from different cartridge loads, a .357 Mag out of a carbine rifle barrel approaches the muzzle velocity and energy of a .44 Mag from a handgun. If you hand-load long bullets that seat deeply in the case, you may need a longer expander plug to avoid crumpling the case. by awp101 Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:25 pm, Post someguy2800, Jul 12, 2019 #7 Eagle 17 and Bfh_auto like this. Even when I was younger I preferred the .357 over the .44. Pistol caliber lever action rifles do make sense for benighted states, and are also still a lot of fun for the rest of us as well. This allows, again, for higher velocities and energies than the revolvers made by Ruger and Smith & Wesson. Lever action rifles are fun. We do not charge additional fees for credit cards. Then came panic buying of guns and ammo due to social unrest, and of course its a an election year. by pwl44m Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:33 pm, Post I specialize in Thompson Center barrels but also rechamber CVA, H&R, and the new Henry single shots in .357 Magnum to .357 Maximum, .350 Legend, and a number of other .35 caliber cartridges such as .35 Remington and .358/.356 Winchester. If you want to shoot .357 Magnum and .38 Special ammo, just long throat the factory chamber! Marlin made a name for themselves offering an improved version of the Winchester action starting in the 1880s. But do you know how to properly use them? If you want to. NEVER EXCEED MAXIMUM LOADS: Be Alert: Publisher cannot be responsible for . Ive shot the .30-30, and its fine, but man, Id love that thing in .357. The max lead . There's no doubt but that the .357 Magnum with heavy bullets will do it handily up close.The .357 Maximum was an effort to give you .357 Magnum muzzle velocity at 200 meters. Walther's new Performance Duty Pistol is ready for both concealed carry and conventional service situations. Among their improvements was a revision to the receiver for their model of 1894. has the energy and accuracy needed for 200 meter silhouette shooting. Id stay away from used Marlins made anywhere from 2005-2015 though. I always liked the cowboy combo concept of carbine/sidearm same caliber and own lever actions in .44 mag. Im still waiting for someone to make a 357 in. . Hodgdon starting load for the 140 gr. The large loop makes solid sense for colder climates like the plains states and Alaska. The first loads I worked up were with Speers 0.358-inch 180-grain FNSP intended for the .35 Remington. The .357 Maximum is a stretched .357 Magnum case; its about 0.315 inch longer than its parent. Its moderate recoil makes it perfect for smallish folks such as the ladies and folks with disabilities who simply can not stand the recoil of the various .45's. I had the model 19 years ago. It can really thump that shoulder. and i personally think the word tactical and the word options are interchangeable. The hammer was replaced and some work was done to help the feeding and cycling but I am still having a bolt issue. But its the old Supply and demand scenario. I own a Marlin .357 and its a beaut. Best to have at least one, in your favorite caliber, in the collection. $2.92. Problem is, because of the pandemic, and an election year, like all the ammo, there isnt any to be had, in the Pacific Northwest anyway. Unless they went back later to get it they never seemed to care that much. 357/38 is the one of the easiest. There'll be no market for it. Winchester Firearms 1873 Deluxe Sporting 357 Mag / 38 Spl Lever-Action Rifle with Color Case Hardene. The action and trigger needed work, so that cost another $125 from my local Gunsmith in Oregon. Bullets are .357 for jacketed and .358 for lead in diameter. As Im not a horseman, I didnt think much of it beyond that. GunBroker.com Forums. JM Browning did design a lot of the Winchester lever action rifles. Above: Image courtesy of Steinel Ammunition. $1,379.99. Expecting it back today via UPS, cant wait to put some rounds in it this week. The .357 Remington Maximum is the .357 Magnum revolver round lengthened .315 inch, and was basically developed by the hyper-competitive Elgin Gates, who among other things raced powerboats and obsessively hunted trophy-book big game around the world. Long loaded 357 Mag should still be accurate in the 360 and are great for fun shooting. The option for a MAG chamber lets you load published .357 MAXimum loads in the MAGnum case: Henry wisely chose the old, original closed breech barrel chamber with a very short forcing cone, as opposed to the current overly long forcing cone chamber that is essentially the same as a "shot out" barrel used by nearly all other manfacturers. The 1894 CSBL has a 16-inch barrel, with an 8-shot tube. Or the new Marlin Dark series for a little more money. by bgmkithaca Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:46 am, Post On the other hand, I own a .357 Uberti 1873 sporting Deluxe 24.5 octagonal barrel rifle and the thing is drop dead sexy, and fun to shoot. Thanks to everyone for beginning my education about lever guns! Max. The conversion was not troublesome at all other than a rebarrel and chamber job , it feeds with no modifications whatever needed. Its been gaining more momentum than originally expected. That it would also make a good field cartridge for hunting small and medium game is obvious. The world's most powerful firearm database. It was for long-range pistoleeringthe IHMSA challenge of accuracy and power at range. Chiefs Special, 6 Python and Henry in 357. can you find sace for a backpack sized tote? When Remington put the special round into production, it got a new (and prophetic) name: .357 Maximum. Back in 05, I bought an Interarms marked Rossi model 92SR off of the used rack at a LGS for $200. Similar to the Critter You Are Hunting Effect. Don't like it you can turn it quick and easy. The company made its humble start in 1963in Gussago, Italywhen Giuseppe Pietta made a commitment to produce guns as authentic and true-to-original as possible. by Old Ironsights Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:54 pm, Post Its a copy of the Winchester 1892 made by Miroku for Browning. Who knows what the future will bring and if the wife and I will one day move out of this state, but for now we have good jobs, good friends, a good church, no debt, and hope that the current angst against Newsom and the Left in general will bring about some degree of change in November. I know jack-all about lever guns except what I saw on The Rifleman growing up. As far as commiespretty sure it would get the job done. She relegates me to my Win 94 trapper in 45 Long ColtI guess I get by. Most of my hearing is already gone, might has well get a couple of high-pressure guns to finish it off, Most of my hearing is already gone, might has well get a couple of high-pressure guns to finish it off. I really like my lever guns, also have a early JM guide gun in 45-70 and also one in 450 Marlin. I still have a stash of Hornady 180 grain SSP's for it. The original factory loading was a relatively fragile 158-grain JHP similar to those Remington loaded in the .357 Magnum. Id tend to agree with you. Based on the serial number it looked like it was made this year. I can probably name a couple dozen powders that will work in the .357. They both have Constitutional carry! Frankly the quality was sinking fast before Remington bought them out, but they went straight off the cliff when they fired all the Marlin workers and took their worn out tooling and put their own Remington workers (with no experience building lever guns) on them. Note: A complete article about the .357 Maximum can be found on the Handgun Cartridge . .357 MAGnum throated long to accept .357 MAXimum published loads in MAGnum brass, (Ask about other options such as .35 Remington, .358/.356 Winchester.). I was favorably impressed with the .357 Max and the spectrum of .357 bullets that would optimize its versatility. (I do have a Ruger LCR that was pretty good out of the box and a 50 year old 1911 that are in the running.). .357 inches (all 350 legend) shell case length: Source: www.okshooters.com The most Fun guns I own. Brand: Winchester. Max. And you get a couple more rounds in the tube. When the gun fired, it behaved like all revolvers in that the powder charge in those long chambers burned at a very high temperature. A number of employees punched these rifles out to .357 Maximum and were very happy with the field results. Marlin gets it and offers a true carbine. And a fun one! Less than 100 days away now. Christmas is coming. Seems like whenever Ive had the funds, none have been available, and when Im broke, there everywhere. And yes the price has been driven up on them, in the used market in the last 10, 15 years or so, especially the ones with no factory additional safetys, other than the half cock position of the hammers, such as the older Winchester and Marlin 94s. Bfh_auto Member Joined: Feb 23, 2016 Messages: 6,502 In single shot rifles or pistols, I would choose the max. I believe Ive had more fun with my .357 Maximum barrel than any other in my T/C stable with the possible exception of the .22 Hornet barrel. For them a pistol caliber Lever carbine makes a lot of sense. [6] The "Magnum era" began with the .375 H&H rifle cartridge, spreading to handguns with the .357 Magnum. Some additional info on Fury Bullets, Detroit, MI. Thank God for so many various powders available. Since there is very little commercial availability for the .357 Rem. I might have to take that to the range next time and see what happens. Used Savage 24V Series D 357 Rem Max / 20GA 2-3/4 or 3" shell,Top break action, Reciever is a case hardened finish. The 1892 was one of Winchesters rifles designed by John Browning. New in the Box. The .357 Magnum cartridge is based upon Smith & Wesson's earlier .38 Special cartridge. MSRP is $1,223, but since the name on it is Marlin instead of Winchester, itll command less of a premium in-store. So its a one-two-three punch. This is a high-class place so act respectable. Im just fed up with the fact I spent over $1000 in gun and ammo to not be able to use it AND when it comes back from the shop it is dirty, not fixed, and has some cosmetic issues that werent there when I shipped it. The youngsters love shooting it with .38 spl. They only made these two years. You do want to make sure your rounds are flatnose, hollowpoint or LeverEvolution in a tube magazine. They averaged 1810fps out of my Marlin. Todays edition also features a falling block safety, so it can be carried loaded. lever gun that I own and have ever shot, easy on the arms and has some versatility. .357 Maximum loaded with Our 200g Hollow Point gas checked to produce zero leading even at full speed. I would love to have a new Henry Big Boy X in 357 Magnum.. JWM, I too would love to have pairs of 357 and 44 mags. by Rusty Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:22 pm, Post Guns can be fun. Optimize the potentials of the .357 MAGnum by long rethroating the factory chamber. In Stock. It is a smaller diameter bullet with a high velocity, which makes it penetrate well during hunting. You might find a few boxes at the Tulsa world gun show. I got a 336BL a couple years ago and I have no complaints. It has a lot going for it: you can drive a 125 grain JHP .38 to .357 handgun velocities, its 16 barrel is just as handy as an AR, you can reload on the fly like a shotgun, its legal in all 50 states, not frightening to non-POTG, and is simple to operate. Just wish the all-weather version didnt have the silly loop lever. I wonder how the rimless version of the .357 Maximumthe .350 Legendwill fare. get the Lee hand press. If a Marlin 336 is a candidate for a successful rebarrel and chamber job in order to use 357 Maximum/Supermag cartridges. We manufacture Partition, AccuBond, E-Tip, Ballistic Tip, Custom Competition and much more. Ive had a similar experience. Here are the features to watch out for. This was a blue-collar sport that could be pursued at relatively modest cost, using handloads in a rock-bottom minimum battery of one powerful revolver. Ps should've gone with 26" would be better. And, re getting it looked at, yes; thing is, there arent too many smiths in my area who are comfortable working on lever-actions (and the ones that are, I dont trust). Head to the range this week with American Rifleman staff as they discuss a trim little repeater from Savage Arms that comes chambered for the .22 WMR cartridge. by Hobie Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:59 am, Post The resulting airspace does no good. Loads published in the major reloading manuals are pitifully understated, going to only go to about 40,000 psi. This round is about the same thing as a 357 Max except for bore diameter. I have one with the turnstile safety. Sorry, there are no results in your area. No more squirrel. It packs or stows easily and are very difficult to find lately. Low dollar lever gun joy is in your future. Larger game such as elk or black bear warrant a more substantial cartridge and hunting game on the open plains of the West requires more power and a flatter trajectory. Winchester just introduced the 350 Legend for all the people who are stuck using straight walled cartridges. Marlin changed the sliding top strap to a sliding sidewall, therefore making the rifle side-ejecting. First, I was a guy who dropped the idea, except for a special-purpose handload. You are using an out of date browser. Accurate Arms, Hercules, Hodgdon, Hornady, IMR, Lyman, Nosler, RCBS, Sierra and Speer.