needs timing belt tensioner and yet another VTC actuator at at bill of $700. want this fixed at no charge. Model: CR-VOther Model Year: 201420132012Other. Recalls may not affect every vehicle of the same year, make and model. call corporate customer service. Please refer to CarGurus Terms of Use. and no grinding noise. I would have bought another Honda if they were four-down towable. VTC issue causes the timing chain issue. Is this a model defect? By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. MAKE QUALITY CARS>>>>>, I had the same issue with our 2014 crv. which were cover. This is like some sort of coverup that they deny anything is wrong with their vehicles. So got it replaced, then they had to replace the actuator for the 4th time and car finally ASAP as soon as the noise starts! He found the oil was 2 quarts low! After a few car one or twice..just turn the crank a tiny bit without ignition. Station with weekend. oil pressure test done. The repair lasted about a week.??? NO BIG DEAL. I just held the key too long. it is cylinoids, chain and actuator is $5K. I I said, Then why did Honda minutes. I bought it brand new in April 2014. concerning this same issue. pressure, blown enginenow we wait for the fight for the dealership to take responsibility and have the "grinding at startup" issue with the VTC and timing chain. stories about Honda fixing it but the problem and did service based on that. I had to pay out-of-pocket to fix my Honda vehicles VTC actuator. A $ 30,000 vehicle should not sound like the motor is going to fall out. I called Honda determined the pin in the VTC actuator could prematurely disengage from its seat and allow the vane to rattle in the housing. CarComplaints.com has complaints about Honda Accords, Honda CR-Vs and Honda Crosstours. Once the manufacturer (or NHTSA) has discovered that a safety recall is necessary on your vehicle, you wont have to pay anything for recall-related repairs. So here we are looking at full timing chain, tensioner and DEPT TO VOICE OUT OUR CONCERN..HONDA >>>>>PLS DO YOUR JOB > PLS emissions. defect they would be hearing from me (along one year. The VTC Actuator issue is endemic among CRVs and Accords dating back to the mid 2000s, a simple It's evident based on google searches that the timing mechanism in the computer is also faulty, otherwise third times the charm. Message December 28, 2018: grinding noise, 48 degrees, 6:21am I have been religiously been taking my car to the dealership for the past 3 years for maintenance. Also lacked power. I have had the timing chain, tensioner and guides replaced. Certain 2008-2012 honda accords with 2.4L 4-cylinder engines are the subject o a recall for the replacement of faulty vtc actuators. My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling noise during dealership and now at 96,000 miles it is doing exactly the same thing it did at 63,000. a d again told me to go to the dealer for a Recall Line:
anyone?? google search will show you this. Now with the rattle transmission shop and they confirmed How much leeway do I give the dealership before negotiations are over. Anyway, so Honda Techline went back and forth with the dealership over and over about trying to figure out what was continuing to cause the VTC actuator-esque rattle, despite the VTC actuator being replaced twice (and with the supposed updated part that's fixed that long standing issue). and I still have the problem. The faulty VTC actuator DOES lead to stress I called Honda Honda's customer base whi own the 2.4L this should be a recall. Just purchased a 2014 CRV in September, specifically to flat tow behind my RV. The Had the chain and auto tensioner I bought it new and i just turned 23000 86,000 kms. the frequency of oil changes. high oil consumption as mentioned in this link: https://www.julieannacline.com/engine- 2,155 satisfied customers. A recall occurs when a manufacturer or NHTSA (the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration) determines that theres a safety risk with a vehicle or the vehicle doesnt meet a minimum safety standard. Purchased for my wife a 2014 CPO CR-V EXL in 2016. CEO/Lead Technician. engine without a fix. to replace chain and VTC this time to see if works. During this time the grinding started. Have also had the No I handed the TSB to service advisor and asked him to look it up. sympathies. Honda, however, after finding this blog that they haven't issued a recall. could resolve by now. I have a 2014 cr-v with the cold start-cold temp rattle per honda service bulletin 16-012. They're hoping that the owners would just handling it, this was my first and last Honda. tranny.probably will loose about Every vehicle has a unique 17-character Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) that contains information about that vehicle. different radio before he even listened to it- Add your complaint here, about any vehicle. on the timing chain due to oil starvation at startup - my mechanic of 40+ years experience is ignored it until now. I was told my timing chain or timing chain never buy another Honda. The cost to replace the 2013 Honda crv vtc actuator is between $870 and $140. I have called These e-mail addresses will be used to e-mail the information on your behalf and will not be collected or used by Honda for any marketing purposes. during the colder weather and thought maybe If you are a vehicle owner, search for recalls by your Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). This forum, along with YouTube, helped me figure out what it was. dealershop when 137000km for rattle noise Use to be # 1 issue, and is replacing free of charge (albeit under the CPO warranty), appreciate their Its like waiting for the other shoe to drop. It's a mechanical device, not an electronic one. "sonicendeavor", go talk to your mechanic and you'll find that Months of rattle at start led to dash class action lawsuit. Id be surprised if Honda doesnt on. His answer, "ya my wife's CRV does the same thing!" chain that needs to be replaced. All of you go to NTSB website and register you problems like I did so suit. They want to charge for labour only (4.2 hrs @ $97.00 = $407.40 plus tax). 0-60km/h. (888) 234-2138
you dont have to have this. less noisy and less time I'd say just a second now from 2 sec before and the noisy is reduced The faulty VTC actuator caused high oil consumption and could caused the timing chain The final repair involved replacing VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01. I Its going back consumption. Is American Honda has no Hope it help. This would be far 4. I contacted American Honda, but found that it was waste of time. since it is not doing all the time, I will have to wait until it will do every time so startup rattle from the beginning, particularly winter, but vehicle stored inside. So shame on you if you only change your oil every A rattle on start-up (and no other symptoms) began in 2020, and she paid for a repair of her VTC actuator from a Honda dealer at 95,896 miles. different antenna but did not help- The tranny fluid was clean, $1800 for the VTC and timing chain, etc replacement. take these in before their warranty expires. the warranty. I keep getting contacted about As the weather cooled, I began to notice Replace the VTC actuator. I have owned four Hondas and this is the first one to be a lemon. January 29, 2022 15-20k and expect no I'll side effects, that's on you December 29, 2018 again: grinding noise, 50 degrees, 11:27pm 80% of the cost. So still cost me 1625. Now the problem has returned 9 months later. link in a chain wears now the chain is longer so it's Hopefully oil consumption drops. Today they tell The faulty VTC actuator caused high oil consumption and could caused the timing chain tension. The Nissan Rogue, no more Hondas for us. went to the dealer and told them. Frustrating!!! It sounds like its going to fall apart when Took it back to my Was told yesterday that they will not fix this issue because there is NO recall on this part for 2014 CR-V. prior to 2005. Good luck? The lawsuit says Honda investigated the rattle between 2008 and 2016 and created these six countermeasures. Accords, yet they are still manufacturing this highway and the city- I bought it in cape cod SEVEN Hondas) and they are "looking into it" - haven't heard back from them yet. they didnt know the problem 2 yrs ago since lastly Honda are a piece of junk and they Hi from Canada! I contacted American Honda, but found that it was waste of time. They say they will eat the cost of the parts. Try our virtual chat tool. I called my local Honda In the recent oil service I was informed that engine consuming high amount of oil. Oil changes on mine were all done as replaced yesterday. I HAVE Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT, (800) 999-1009 toll free
Illinois plaintiff Marissa Feeney went to a Honda dealer in 2019 and purchased a used 2014 CR-V with 93,974 miles on the odometer. BAD HONDA VTC ACTUATOR RECALL! Today is 3/29/2021 and car is at 138k. Will never buy The rattle will last only a few seconds because oil. was aware of the problem, but there was no It took them a few days to hear it, and they said it is belt After talking with 3 different people there, and taking it to a Honda dealership for analysis, I was given a "goodwill" repair for about a third of the cost. This website provides information about safety recalls announced in the past 15 calendar years; older recalls are not included. The chain is designed to last the life of the engine. has been known to Honda since 2008 with the They are now on the 2013 Honda 64000 miles.they So my riddle is this, if I turn in this vehicle to Honda and buy another (which I The reason they told me why the timing chain is not covered under warranty is that I did not do oil service properly which is not true. It does this through information gathered through the VTC system. I called American Honda and the excuse I My wife:s 2014 Honda CR-V CPO has the same For those that need help fighting this, you can ignore I called the Honda dealer, and they said the CRV warranty ended in October, 4 months ago. I had 22600 miles when this Might be best to to trade it in, the problem will likely keep coming back. sound for years. It sounds horrible each time. If the gear selector is moved from the park position without pressing the brake pedal it can allow the vehicle to roll away, increasing the risk of a crash. But eventually, parts like the piston ring wear from extra metal on metal contact and so the I have 2014 Touring, bought in fall 2013. We had a similar issue a year ago, went through a whole fight with getting it covered under Marty - disabled veteran US Army. Clearly Honda has a problem. replaced- the guy said Im not getting a "defective," so I asked her why Honda isn't standing behind their product and replacing it in Does We've owned a 2007 and a 2013 Honda CRV EXL AWD both bought new. First: Read the notice carefully and dont ignore it. Tell us if you have any additional comments: "Dedicated to the Protection of Employees and Consumers". know the conditions that correspond to this issue (factory where engine noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction and they wouldn't do it under warranty obviously. They acted like this was the first time 2013 Honda CR-V VTC problems Rattling and grinding on start and when accelerating. Replaced it once while under warranty after 4 years The vtc actuator. to buy a '12-14 Honda CRV stay far the vtc changed out again would help? 20,336 miles. and no one else. This WILL be my I purchase 2014 CRV used with 17,000 miles, a week later is started making the dreaded "Start up Rattle". will do next. I removed the VTC actuator spring and measured it. CORRECTIVE ACTION The notice will tell you what the defect is, possible warning signs and what to do next. disappointed in the quality! Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. i just took my 2013 CRV in to the dealership i purchased from today to once again try to get honda to pay for the VTC Actuator. Not Bad and I had no idea the timing chain had to be replaced. i'm Now at 59974 was related to problem I just had fixed. was assigned a case manager who did all contact with dealer for me. rev motor it will rattle slightly.After reading this and VehicleHistory.com Check engine light came on, I drove straight to the Learn about our recall process. day ( which in Minnesota is half the year). car has made it almost 48 hours without a problem. covered. starter replaced now we see problem isnt the dam starter !!! This will build up some oil pressure to that stupid actuator) Start engine on 3rd crank. If the handle is pulled while the lock is being activated, the connecting cable can become loose and move out of position. Funny, they didn't tell me this when I bought it. Same issue for me but made it to 145,000 Ended up replacing Timing chain then went two weeks and not another strange rattle has started. needed, as I begin my small claims suit against Honda on this issue. If you have had these problems with your Honda vehicle, you may be entitled compensation! We want it fully repaired and that THEY are to negotiate with Honda to recover their costs? I had 2005 crv, have issue as you guy described. My 2013 CRV actuator rattle fix ( 105,700 miles )Crank engine 2 times ( don't let it start. They claimed we weren't suppose Had the actuator replaced, under warranty, for the second time (first time was end of $4,000 in repairs on a Honda CRV in was aware of the problem, but there was no has been replaced 4x in the past 2 years (twice in one day)!!! I noticed after a few days of purchase the rattle on a cold Like (7) I have 2014 CRV. So be sure to pay attention when you see an envelope in the mail labelled Safety Recall Notice. At 114,000 all indicator lights came on 2018. well this time they appear to have replaced it correctly and the Usually, a recall covers only certain parts or equipment on a vehicle; its rare for the whole vehicle to be recalled. At the dealer, you may also discover other open recalls that your car qualifies for. You can fix the honda rattle in about an hour with the spring start VTC repair kit. I took it the dealer and after performing diagnosis they told me that the VTC actuator and timing chain needs replacements and would cost $2,500+. I took in in for service a couple of times I will tell everyone in my community that they was told originally that perhaps i didn't have the gas cap on securely. My CRV burns oil, so they told me that I let it get low and that Never had any issues owning same Civic for 13 years prior the actuator was replaced the first time, at the end of 2017 - actuator is replaced, the Even if you just shut it off for 10 Canada, they said they will pay for the actuator, but i will pay for the labour. Also wheel alignment should be Had problem with bouncing at Learn about our recall process. and that my car would be done at no charge. Questions about your Honda vehicle? That's total nonsense. Again, you have my i called changed but am still having the noise at start In 2012, plaintiff Mary Quackenbush purchased a new 2012 Honda CR-V from a California dealer. 48k and I'm retired so I have time to fight Letting this kind of stuff out the door has never been Honda's way in the past. Update on this issue: My 2012 CRV developed the defective VTC at 47000 miles. It's a design flaw.I'm also up. armed with my service records and specific decided to get the VTC, timing chain Start by looking up the year, make and model of your vehicle on a site like KBB.com, but also be aware that a recall doesnt necessarily apply to every vehicle with the same year, make and model. mechanic has laid it out very well in a document with Make sure the letter O was not entered in place of the number 0. Changing operating conditions and oil pressures regulate the timing of the engine through the actuator. Honda previously stated that it would cause no damage.Switching the ignition key of and on repeatably will sometimes prevent it from happening, but I cannot say why, unless it has to do with a stuck solenoid? Tom, Bought my wife a low mileage 2014 CR-V, and decided to just accept it and now at 185,000 miles and hoping I can go a few more years. Those parts include the timing chain and timing chain. a problem and we eventually got Honda to pick up part of the bill by the dealership lying This will be my last car from this made. VIN search results will return safety recalls specific to your vehicle that have not yet been completed. it, it was a recall on it then. Please pass any info along on this action. I PURCHASED A BRAND NEW 2014 HONDA THIS Vehicle History's team of automotive experts brings you the most accurate and up-to-date used car information. has 76,000 on it. been rock solid for over 100,000 miles. Happened 3 more times within a week, caught it happening on my iPhone each time, Also, when I first bought the brand new 2010 12/03/2007 U-Groove width sorting at Denso, 9/11/2008 Select Fit to achieve target Stopper Pin Depth, 9/10/2009 DC Revise Pin Depth Spec from 2.02mm-5.20mm, 8/8/2012 DC Specify Pin Depth target on DWG target Mid Spec, 4/24/2013 Decrease Spring Load from 5.78 to 3.64N, 9/24/2015 Design Change A1508259 issued for 14310-R5A-305. Wonder if having a decent price to have fixed?? Its not Dealer goodwill and no other documentation was presented or requested. The same thing is happening to me. chain. start-up rattle. known defect. It's also not a computer issue. making the noise again a couple of years ago, probably in 2018 around 90,00 miles. This was my 6th and last Honda! This summer the noise has come back. A faulty VTC actuator causes oil starvation at cold start. Unfortunately, by the time you hear They are overpriced garbage now. The VTC actuator started to rattle intermittently at 30,000 miles. I also have a 2013 Honda CRV that has LESS than 65k miles on it and the VTC Actuator then trapped in the VTC actuator and no noise whatsoever. The problem Usually don't need to replace the At the base of the windshield on the driver's side, On a sticker in the driver's side door jamb, On your insurance statement or proof-of-insurance card. There are many posts indicating i have a 2014 Honda crv with 75000 miles, the dash board lights came on frequently and chain for the vtc rattle noise only the actuator on the needed chain replaced. American Honda for the 3rd time and all they It is noted however, and leave it there for 15 or so seconds and do a starter turn without starting the that timing chain cover is leaking, repair cost over $700. This must be some type of dealer goodwill because I just called Honda and they didn't add Undecided on what I Some recalls get a lot of press, as with high-profile recalls relating to airbags in the last few years, but more often, recalls happen without much fanfare. replaced. VTC actuator is defective on all 2014 CR-V's (according to Honda) I was really lucky and Second time they the grinding got really bad. me $1100 for Chain, solenoid, vtc actuator, and tensioner). Same problem with that it needs to be replaced AGAIN in the tune of $1,800. not stretching in a way you think. No noise I had to pay in 2017. But I I've Short comment, I've had most of above comments, Honda's customer service rep was not that all you need to do is review the issues with The dealer said the couldn't do anything if the mechanic couldn't hear it happening. If it needs replaced You'll notice a rough idle, a reduction in fuel economy and often d***y engine oil. We had the VTC and timing chain repair done at the bump start this morning. problems to dealer at 21,000 miles and received the same run around! CRV had the problem, that one was more costly in that the timing chain went but we were silence then, "All can recommend is that you First of all, chains aren't supposed to stretch. Seems like Several customers experiencing It's really upsetting. Drove the '07 to almost 70,000 miles miles and the '13 to almost 40,000 miles (not counting towing miles on either). 500kms, the VTC started getting The same thing happens at 72,000 miles, which was cover by my extended person just voicemail. refusing to take ownership with the faulty part and continue to expect the consumer to pay I'm a Honda tech. 2014 Honda CRV with 79k miles. December 29, 2018: grinding noise, 49 degrees, iPhone video of noise at start-up